Comments on: Tomory Dodge: Without A Doubt? http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/ Abstract Critical is a not-for profit company aiming to establish a new critical context for all generations of artists involved with ambitious abstract art. Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:23:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: CAP http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/#comment-470110 Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:27:53 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8023#comment-470110 The Sam Windett show at The Approach I thought was more successful. If I was a man instead of a mouse I’d write a review of it. :)

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By: CAP http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/#comment-470097 Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:23:10 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8023#comment-470097 The layers didn’t bring to mind doubt for me – just process. Keep digging a hole until you look deep. Nor can I see why horizontal and vertical strokes necessarily signalled doubt or revision. That just looked like a formulaic way of maintaining a balanced composition. ZZZZZZZZ.

He started off doing landscapes and there’s probably some sort of similar depth implied in all these layers, but the whole thing has just got too tasteful and tepid for me. The symmetry thing from the last show was a bit more interesting – playing off a disorder within more or less symmetrical panels – that could have been Rauschenbergian, vaguely – but even then the horizontal/vertical structure to strokes seemed a bit easy.

Definitely Dodgy.

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By: Robin Greenwood http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/#comment-447630 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 18:48:34 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8023#comment-447630 Oh don’t worry, the only serious thing I’ve written on abcrit recently is the comment on Gary Wragg. That is very serious.

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By: Terry Ryall http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/#comment-447393 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 16:07:04 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8023#comment-447393 Crikey, now I’VE got that fecking tone difficulty!

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By: Robin Greenwood http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/#comment-447313 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 14:53:29 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8023#comment-447313 Thank you Terry, very amusing I’m sure. John B. might like to tot up just how many debates my curmudgeonly tirades of “unanswerable condescension” have so far shut down on abcrit. I’m not counting, but I have a hunch that it is a few less than his own brand of up-speak specious hyperbole.

Like?

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By: Terry Ryall http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/#comment-447127 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:56:17 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8023#comment-447127 Oh dear John Bunker, now look what you’ve done. Still, a nice example from Robin of the old maxim of attack being the best form of defence.

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By: Robin Greenwood http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/#comment-447007 Thu, 03 Apr 2014 10:25:48 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8023#comment-447007 Perhaps I’m compelled to negativity, bile and indifference, in the case of your reviews especially John, by the relentlessness of your upbeat and uncorroborated assertions. I am, in turn, quite strongly irked when you write as if you are concocting gallery-speak for promotion purposes, stressing inconsequential context over content. That, in my opinion, is most definitely not what this site is for, and I’m unapologetic about critically going after such copy and the work it promotes. What’s more, I sometimes feel I can read all through a review by you and still not know what you REALLY think, behind the language. However, I will admit that your review here is more balanced, and so perhaps I should have left it alone, even though “distinctly average-going-on-poor” is hardly heavy duty. You may take offence at this on his behalf, but I would say that Dodge’s work might well benefit from some stronger criticism than you provide, and in that regard, maybe I offer him more in respect of potential than even you do (think about that one). As to the impact of any of this on people’s career etc., well, I think that’s nonsense from any point of view.

By the way, Patrick, why don’t you have a go at defending those ever-so-dreary Frankenthalers at Jaconsons (big enough, John?) instead of blathering vaguely about politics and ethics.

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By: John Bunker http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/#comment-446185 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 23:37:30 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8023#comment-446185 So….? So don’t get me wrong Robin, I enjoy your writing immensely , it is a breath of fresh air, especially when you are writing about the art that you passionately admire. You have a right to air your opinion and it is an incredibly well informed one! But it just never ceases to irk me when you use phrases like “pathetically narrow” (on Sturgis) or “distinctly average going on poor” (on Dodge). The ‘tone’ of these phrases is obviously negative- but more importantly this ‘tone’ seems to court some notion of finality and have the air of a distinctly unanswerable condescension about it. Are you making comments like this to inspire debate or to close it down?

Again, I’m only bringing this up because you and others who leave comments on this site have made me think about issues concerning tone, style and emphasis in how we talk about abstraction. These different approaches to dialogue do and will impact on how different artists working in this idiom have and will be ignored or given a chance in galleries and public spaces (that you allude to) in the future. Indeed “…. it was ever thus” that really good artists might not get the breaks they deserve. Sometimes it’s good to lament on what never got the ‘airplay’ it warranted- there’s a lot to be learned from that- but it doesn’t necessarily mean one has to turn round and spit bile ( or feign total indifference) to what is ‘on the up’ right now.

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By: Patrick Jones http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/#comment-445949 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 20:53:37 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8023#comment-445949 As a long term supporter of Abstract Critical I would endorse Johns call for a broader church.I have always thought Robin Greenwoods idea of a new Abstract Art for our times to be very important,and indeed have tried to act on it.However I have in the process become more acutely aware of cultural,economic and dare I say political constraints upon individual action.Tony Benns death wasnt irrelevent for artists to mourn as he represented an ethical beacon of hope and aspiration,the same feeling which motivates my studio activety.

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By: Robin Greenwood http://abstractcritical.com/note/tomory-dodge-without-a-doubt/#comment-441706 Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:13:17 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8023#comment-441706 John, I’m in the same position I put Ben in recently – of not knowing how to take the tone of your comment. Are you suggesting Dodge is an easy target? He’s obviously a bigger fish than me, so I’m not picking on minnows, and I’ve reviewed big painters and sculptors in the past (Caro etc). The Scott essay I don’t have much to say about, one way or the other; it’s a little academic for me, and there is no work to comment on.

As for your first paragraph, abcrit IS a site where you can do those things. So…?

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