Comments on: Robert Motherwell: The East Hampton Years 1944-52 http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/ Abstract Critical is a not-for profit company aiming to establish a new critical context for all generations of artists involved with ambitious abstract art. Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:23:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: Peter Stott http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/#comment-837524 Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:24:51 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8432#comment-837524 For years I wondered what those Elergy paintings were about. Now I know artists don’t know what they are doing.

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By: anthony seymour http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/#comment-837222 Thu, 04 Sep 2014 12:58:51 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8432#comment-837222 Stott you really don’t know when to stop after your vile faux pas in the first place and to cut the chase it does not sound as if you have ever even seen an er, Motherwell.
I won’t be calling nurse, albeit you are sickeningly warped and not so clued-up at all I fear so I won’t respond again as you might as well not exist from where I am.

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By: Peter Stott http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/#comment-830103 Tue, 02 Sep 2014 00:14:18 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8432#comment-830103 Let’s not forget here, we’re talking about cultural products of ‘abstraction’, so valued as representations of that culture, as to be each worth 400 years of the time of the average man (assuming an average wage of £25,000 a year). 400 years of endeavour of the average man, per creation.

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By: Peter Stott http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/#comment-830026 Mon, 01 Sep 2014 23:49:52 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8432#comment-830026 I’m a wierder creation than a society that has as its most esteemed products those ‘three ‘figures’ at the base of the crucifix’ by Francis Bacon? What is that about (and the rest of his work)? A culture that values such things as the representative expression of itself. I dread to think.

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By: Robin Greenwood http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/#comment-829413 Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:15:35 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8432#comment-829413 Sorry Robert, I’ve been on holiday without a computer – proof positive that Mr. Stott is not my invention. Besides, you couldn’t make him up.

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By: Peter Stott http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/#comment-828567 Mon, 01 Sep 2014 15:40:14 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8432#comment-828567 Seymour, I am not the subject of the conversation, the point I am making is that a lot of art imagery is demented and perverted, like these early Motherwell pictures, as I see them and that ‘abstraction’ is some sort of cover-all excuse for that. What about Cecily Brown and her cut-up writhing contortions or the work of Francis Bacon? It’s OK to work out one’s diabolical fixations with art? I’m choosing a debating position, like everyone else, I’ve seen images like this around for years.
If one sees these images as ‘real’ then they are extremely strange and one wonders why they are treasured by the state i.e. the Tate’s holdings of Bacon’s work. Metaphors? Satires of WW2? The horrors of war have created imagery far worse, one only has to visit the World Press Photo annual show in London to see really really shocking stuff.
The creation of images is taboo in certain cultures and one doesn’t know exactly the price to pay for that, regarding any kind of God backlash. Nobody knows for sure, but a culture that values Bacon as human expression, seems to me, to be demonic. If one takes drugs and looks at art, then art can become real as part of the mediation of reality via the senses, so in that sense, a Bacon or a Brown painting can become ‘real’, animated with spirit, the work of art literally becoming alive as such. In that sense, the work of art comes into being. I wonder how many artists actually road test their products before letting them loose on a sensitive audience. We’ve all been conditioned to think that such things as Bacon’s oeuvre is OK, to be respected even, cos it’s art, the works are ‘well painted’ but is exploding humans ‘abstracted’ OK? I wouldn’t want my children to see them, if I had any.

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By: Anthony Seymour http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/#comment-807107 Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:09:27 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8432#comment-807107 Dear Peter,

“Picasso in Origami Heaven as a rubic cube if there is karma” sounds bizarre or zealous effrontery distracting from serious achievement and the poignancy of your own possibly deeply hurt psyche.

Pablo is no doubt in a well deserved Pussy Heaven…..

Its possible to surmise you might have got on very well with De Kooning tearing around his neighbourhood boasting about being profoundly ****struck to be honest!

As regards your concern and indignation of so much contemporary degeneracy perhaps you would have felt agreement with one of Schnabel’s recent outcry’s on canvas included in his retrospective until last month at the Dairy Art Centre in London, “Fifteen Years Old and Surrounded by Pigs” criticisng the Fashion Industry…..

To end aptly and come full circle, Motherwell wrote about “The Despair of the Aesthetic” and yet he could sometimes bash out some tumbling canvases with a passion….!

I enjoyed reading your nineteenth-century-style-rants.

You are by far the liveliest commentator on Ab.Crit. and who is to say if you might have an article or so in you(?) with some tweeking, if they would be willing to publish it and if you want to write so gutsy!!!!!

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By: Peter Stott http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/#comment-798771 Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:46:31 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8432#comment-798771 Picasso’s now in oregami heaven as a rubic cube if karma ever caught up with him.

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By: Anthony Seymour http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/#comment-798758 Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:42:51 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8432#comment-798758 Nobody is seriously riled by all this toxic rot Peter.

You have skewed things completely.

Ansel Krut has nothing in common with Rolf Harris at all for God’s Sake! Why do you seem to have some sort of vendetta with this Krut?

Actually please don’t answer that because its a strange abyss probably for you…..

You are right people were empty-headed to adore Rolf and it was obnoxious how they all seemed to think he was so cool and drooled no doubt over his awful daubs in Harrods oddly enough once upon a time!

Worse still his evil portrait-in-drag as our Queen which so many fools seemed to think was lovely and all the stupid regional museum directors who queued up to put it on tour and bring in the zombie crowds – It was sickening and an insult to Her Majesty as victim, all the suckers who fell for it and even poor drag queens!

For what it is worth I don’t even like Krut’s paintings very much and could never feel why he was always selected to be “successful” although I don’t think it has anything to do so much with your line of thought and unlike you, he is quite an ordinary chap to talk with, but who knows maybe you are a better artist if somewhat volatile to put it politely?

Bye Bye and Take Care

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By: Peter Stott http://abstractcritical.com/note/robert-motherwell-the-east-hampton-years-1944-52/#comment-798630 Sun, 24 Aug 2014 13:50:52 +0000 http://abstractcritical.com/?post_type=note&p=8432#comment-798630 I’m sure anyone sane would worship our material world in preference to the image worlds and objects of art such as this. If the makers of such pictures ever have to go to their worlds created they’d be in big trouble, it would be a nightmare they’d want to wake up from. Art for spooks, that’s what I say :-)

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